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Christ Liebegott
Brighton Twp., PA, USA
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Muster
Posted on: 8/24/2016 4:46:04 PM
I take it that there is no muster scheduled for this year?

Larry Purtell
USA
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Re: Muster
Posted on: 8/25/2016 11:36:59 AM

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I take it that there is no muster scheduled for this year?
--Christ Liebegott


Most likely not. If possible I plan going to Gettysburg in mid October for a few days on my own.

Larry
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ragincajun
Houston, TX, USA
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Re: Muster
Posted on: 12/2/2016 11:32:52 AM
I hate to hear that the fall musters may be a thing of the past.

littlepowell
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Re: Muster
Posted on: 12/2/2016 12:48:13 PM

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I hate to hear that the fall musters may be a thing of the past.
--ragincajun


Yeah I was thinking of going to the one last year, and then it suddenly got canceled with really no explanation as to why..
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Michigan Dave
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Re: Muster
Posted on: 12/10/2016 7:18:38 PM
Ahh remember the musters!

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hopefully we can bring them back!?

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ragincajun
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Re: Muster
Posted on: 1/4/2017 7:19:11 PM
Any idea as to why the abrupt end to the musters? I absolutely loved them (well I only attended about 4, but was planning to attend as many more as I could).

littlepowell
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Re: Muster
Posted on: 1/23/2017 1:41:34 PM

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Any idea as to why the abrupt end to the musters? I absolutely loved them (well I only attended about 4, but was planning to attend as many more as I could).
--ragincajun


Wondering the same.. Seems like it's classified material for some reason..
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Michigan Dave
Muskegon, Michigan, MI, USA
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Re: Muster
Posted on: 1/23/2017 8:29:14 PM
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remembering the 2013 mho muster.
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Gregory C. White
Canton, GA, USA
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Re: Muster
Posted on: 1/23/2017 11:15:35 PM

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Any idea as to why the abrupt end to the musters? I absolutely loved them (well I only attended about 4, but was planning to attend as many more as I could).
--ragincajun


Wondering the same.. Seems like it's classified material for some reason..
--littlepowell


Not sure if it has anything to do with it, but there seemed to be a lot more folks on the
Gettysburg-related forums when I joined MHO, judging by the numerous and frequent postings
in the past. There used to be some great debates on here, then some started name-calling and
making it personal, probably prompting some to abandon MHO for other pursuits. Gettysburg
posts are now infrequent.

Greg
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littlepowell
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Re: Muster
Posted on: 1/24/2017 4:12:08 PM

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Any idea as to why the abrupt end to the musters? I absolutely loved them (well I only attended about 4, but was planning to attend as many more as I could).
--ragincajun


Wondering the same.. Seems like it's classified material for some reason..
--littlepowell


Not sure if it has anything to do with it, but there seemed to be a lot more folks on the
Gettysburg-related forums when I joined MHO, judging by the numerous and frequent postings
in the past. There used to be some great debates on here, then some started name-calling and
making it personal, probably prompting some to abandon MHO for other pursuits. Gettysburg
posts are now infrequent.

Greg

--Gregory C. White


That makes sense, thanks for the info.

Perhaps those of us Gettysburg nuts that are still around can organize our own muster one of these days..
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Bill N-T
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Re: Muster
Posted on: 1/25/2017 10:26:09 AM
As one who was slightly involved in organizing the Musters, I COULD give a partial explanation of reasons for their demise, but I feel that its not my place to do so. Suffice it to say that from my vantage point I am aware that there were (are) several factors involved.

In my own case, my interests have gravitated to other subjects.

Organizing a Muster on the caliber of the past MHO Musters takes considerable time and effort, as well as some expense. Anyone contemplating undertaking the planning of a Muster similar to those in the past should not take the task lightly.


Bill N-T
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scoucer
Berlin, Germany
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Re: Muster
Posted on: 1/25/2017 10:40:53 AM
Good to see that you are still around Bill. I hope all is well with you and yours.

I had dreamed of one day making it to a MHO muster and meeting all the people who have taught me so much about Gettysburg.

Not to be. But even the dreaming was fun.

Thanks Bill.

Trevor
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Dave G
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Re: Muster
Posted on: 1/25/2017 11:06:45 PM
Just a thought.
Has anyone considered an informal get-together without experts for a few simple excursions on the field?
We have a number of pretty qualified knowledgeable persons among the membership that could talk on things, or we might just come back with a better understanding of the action. Sometimes just having a question without an answer is helpful.

Here are some possibilities:
1. I was always very interested in Farnsworth's Charge. When I brought Andie Custer's version up on another site I was attacked by an author with insults and condescension. When the moderators closed the thread down, I quit using that site. However I still think that Andie had the correct version and it would be interesting to walk the field and check out the various features that she mentioned. I have already checked a few locations out (the Zigzag wall, 5th Alabama wall, Bushman's Hill, the D-Shaped Field ...) but I really would enjoy seeing other points such as the misplaced base for the 5th NY Cavalry Monument, Podium Rock, the Farnsworth death site according to Custer. I'll bet there are many of us who know exactly where those points are.

2. A visit to the latest "Harvest of Death" possible photo site just off Reynolds Avenue South (approx. co-ordinates 39.834814, -77.249502) to get a few pics and discuss what does or doesn't add up.

3. A visit to the "Home of a Sharpshooter" to discuss which way the body was moved.

4. A visit to the Rose Farm for a walk through the cow sh-t to get our own views of Gardner's shots. (This only works if the grass is short, trust me!)

5. Checking out some of the locations in Dennis Morris's images -- just to see if he got it right.

Anyway, Gettysburg is full of stuff to be checked out. I could get down in April-June or Sept-early Oct if Mr Trump lets me cross the border. (Honest, Donald, I will go back home.) I never got to a muster because they were too late in the year for me.
If we could come together on dates and a loose agenda, with everyone making their own hotel & food arrangements, maybe we could come up with a plan.
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ChrisArmy
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Re: Muster
Posted on: 1/27/2017 10:29:29 AM
Hi Folks,

Bill is correct - there are several factors that led to not holding the Muster annually anymore - some I am willing to discuss, others I am not. However, the primary driver for it is that the attendance had gone way down thus causing myself and a few others to pitch in money to make it happen. Our last Muster held in 2015 had very few members register from MHO and several register from Facebook. The registration was not enough to pay the Guides without other members helping to underwrite the event....generously. We also had to ask each group to tip the Guides directly....first time we ever had to do that. It worked, but it was a bit stressful quite honestly.

From my personal perspective I would be more than happy to help put another Muster together. Given several time commitments for Work, Guiding and my involvement in other interests, I cannot be the the leader/organizer by myself. Dave G makes a good case for something that we did in the early years....that is, get the folks together and once you have a count of people that are interested in mustering then come up with either exploring the field on your own for some great (although sometimes spirited) discussion. If you want to do a specific tour and hire a guide then that group can pitch in to pay each guide directly. I can certainly help put you in touch with subject matter experts with good tours on any aspect of the field. These were some of the most fun we had over the years....

Others - such as Rick Schaus and Larry Purtell - have always been generous with their time and done tours. Again, this could fit in well with what Dave G is suggesting...

Now - another model that may work would be for a list of tours led by Guides to be put together and whoever shows up for the tour can pitch in to pay and tip the Guide. Again, I would be happy to work with my fellow Guides to put some tours together and it should still be a very cost effective way to do it.

I guess the bottom line here is I would need some help from some folks to determine how to go forward and I would be happy to participate.

Thanks,
Chris

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Larry Purtell
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Re: Muster
Posted on: 1/27/2017 3:14:37 PM
My interest dropped as several MHO members seemed to be self appointed critics and scoffed at anyone who had the nerve to post anything that didn't fit their version of Gettysburg. I really enjoyed the give and take and different views of the battle. I would be most interested in an informal gathering of MHO members and would be glad to share information from past tours I have given.


Larry
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pmuskett
Gettysburg, PA, USA
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Re: Muster
Posted on: 2/4/2017 8:01:26 PM
Chris,
I might be able to help out and give a tour, just depends on my work schedule this fall.

Phil
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Rick Schaus
Capon Springs, WV, USA
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Re: Muster
Posted on: 2/8/2017 11:24:45 AM
I should be able to assist with a tour.


I did an 'open discussion' tour during the "Muster Lite" in 2014(?) on the First Day field where we discussed whatever came to mind whether input or questions.

MHO members have a great deal of knowledge about Gettysburg.
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Scott Brown
MA, USA
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Re: Muster
Posted on: 2/10/2017 7:49:57 PM

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My interest dropped as several MHO members seemed to be self appointed critics and scoffed at anyone who had the nerve to post anything that didn't fit their version of Gettysburg. I really enjoyed the give and take and different views of the battle. I would be most interested in an informal gathering of MHO members and would be glad to share information from past tours I have given.
Larry


Several? Scoffed?

I remember a few heated discussions, but was it that bad?



Regards,
Scott B.

scoucer
Berlin, Germany
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Re: Muster
Posted on: 2/10/2017 8:36:50 PM

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My interest dropped as several MHO members seemed to be self appointed critics and scoffed at anyone who had the nerve to post anything that didn't fit their version of Gettysburg. I really enjoyed the give and take and different views of the battle. I would be most interested in an informal gathering of MHO members and would be glad to share information from past tours I have given.
Larry


Several? Scoffed?

I remember a few heated discussions, but was it that bad?



Regards,
Scott B.
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Yup !

Trevor
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`Hey don´t the wars come easy and don´t the peace come hard`- Buffy Sainte-Marie

Some swim with the stream. Some swim against the stream. Me - I´m stuck somewhere in the woods and can´t even find the stupid stream.

jim mccoubrey
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Re: Muster
Posted on: 7/30/2017 8:14:24 AM
Have not poked my head into this site in a while but sorry to see that this thread has died out. Wouldn't have minded seeing some of the folks one more time.
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Larry Purtell
USA
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Re: Muster
Posted on: 7/30/2017 2:27:35 PM

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Have not poked my head into this site in a while but sorry to see that this thread has died out. Wouldn't have minded seeing some of the folks one more time.
--jim mccoubrey



Jim. I'm still planning an October trip for a few days. If anyone else is interested maybe we can get together informally.

Larry
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ragincajun
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Re: Muster
Posted on: 9/5/2017 4:41:27 PM
I guess like most things in life, it just ran it's course. I hope not though.

Larry Purtell
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Re: Muster
Posted on: 9/5/2017 7:46:33 PM

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I guess like most things in life, it just ran it's course. I hope not though.
--ragincajun



Many groups and events come and go. I have to say the MHO musters were something I really looked forward to.


Larry
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