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 (1939-1945) WWII Battles
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BWilson

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73 years ago
Posted on: 12/16/2017 1:15:11 PM
... the Germans attacked into the Ardennes, some 20 divisions strong. Facing them were three U.S. infantry divisions and parts of an armored division. Six weeks later it was all over and the front lines restored, but at staggering cost.

 I recall being told, years ago, by a Belgian woman who had been alive at the time, the dominant thought was "My God, they're coming again . . ."

December 16, 1944: The Ardennes Offensive opens, momentarily stunning an Allied High Command who had convinced themselves the Germans could no longer mount a major offensive.



Cheers

BW
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Larry Purtell
USA
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Re: 73 years ago
Posted on: 12/16/2017 2:47:07 PM
At the time of the Ardennes offensive my dad was a 23 year old PFC in company-C, 36th armored infantry regiment in the 3rd armored division. Never talked much about the bulge, only that it was bitter cold and the confusion and rumors were constant.

Larry.


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Phil andrade
London, UK
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Re: 73 years ago
Posted on: 12/16/2017 5:07:28 PM
How astonishingly complacent were these Allied commanders who discounted the threat of a major German offensive !

To what might we attribute this ?

Wishful thinking ; delusion ; or something more akin to denial ?

This syndrome recurs so much in military history.

I wonder if hierarchy - and there are few if any institutions more predicated on hierarchy than the military - fosters a pernicious culture of telling superiors what they want to hear, rather than what they need to hear.

Regards , Phil
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John R. Price
Wilkes-Barre, PA, USA
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Re: 73 years ago
Posted on: 12/16/2017 5:55:42 PM
Larry,

Did he say anything about Maj General Maurice Rose? Good friends father-in-law was captured when Rose was KIA.
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