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Cranky
Tuscaloosa, AL, USA
Posts: 27
 | | Puzzling notation in Confederate Soldier Service Record | | Posted on: 3/23/2010 10:46:23 AM | I'm doing some research on my great-great grandfather, Richard Calhoun Smith. He served in the 8th Florida Infantry Regiment, Co. D - alongside his brother and several other family members (step-brothers, cousins, etc) that I am just now uncovering.
While digging through his record, I found this page -
Benet's record looks pretty generic, until I get to this page,
Can anyone decipher this?
Roll of furloughed soldiers - ????
withdrawn & placed with ????
Title - 2-26-17
What does this mean?
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| christ liebegott
Brighton Twp., PA, USA
Posts: 63
| | Re: Puzzling notation in Confederate Soldier Service Record | | Posted on: 3/23/2010 3:41:57 PM | Cranky,
I think the last line may be File instead of Title. The first line may refer to him being placed on a roll of furloughed soldiers for 2 months. Middle line is puzzling. Could it mean that he was removed from the furloughed list and placed on another list such as missing? Just a couple of WAGs.
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| Cranky
Tuscaloosa, AL, USA
Posts: 27
| | Re: Puzzling notation in Confederate Soldier Service Record | | Posted on: 3/25/2010 3:13:38 PM | Thanks so much for the reply -
At war's end, Richard Calhoun Smith, according to his approved pension, had been given furlough but was cut off by the yankees from returning to his unit. I was wondering if maybe this little footnote about furlough might provide some more insight on that. Richard was actually captured during the defense of Fredericksburg, so this undated file might be a reference to that, as well, as he was listed missing and presumed dead or captured until the exchange took place.
I've looked at a lot of service records and not seen something quite like it, though.
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| scoucer
Berlin, Germany
Posts: 507
| | Re: Puzzling notation in Confederate Soldier Service Record | | Posted on: 3/25/2010 8:54:17 PM | Hello Cranky -
Try the floridacivilwar website.
It`s a neat website. maybe you can find something.
Good Luck
All the Best
Trevor
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`Hey don´t the wars come easy and don´t the peace come hard`- Buffy Sainte-Marie
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| Cranky
Tuscaloosa, AL, USA
Posts: 27
| | Re: Puzzling notation in Confederate Soldier Service Record | | Posted on: 3/26/2010 11:44:28 AM | I've posted there before - unfortunately, the administrators let it go and it has finally retired to 500 status.
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| unclelooney
Minneapolis, MN, USA
Posts: 244
| | Re: Puzzling notation in Confederate Soldier Service Record | | Posted on: 4/5/2010 10:33:19 AM |
Quote:I'm doing some research on my great-great grandfather, Richard Calhoun Smith. He served in the 8th Florida Infantry Regiment, Co. D - alongside his brother and several other family members (step-brothers, cousins, etc) that I am just now uncovering. While digging through his record, I found this page - Benet's record looks pretty generic, until I get to this page, Can anyone decipher this? Roll of furloughed soldiers - ????
withdrawn & placed with ????
Title - 2-26-17What does this mean? --Cranky
Roll of furloughed soldiers - 2 names
Withdrawn and placed with- My guess is that this is someone's name.
A company captain? I don't see anyone in company D who would be a suspect but then again your ancestor is listed as Casinero Bennett.
date or file?-2-26-17 file most likely
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| unclelooney
Minneapolis, MN, USA
Posts: 244
| | Re: Puzzling notation in Confederate Soldier Service Record | | Posted on: 4/5/2010 10:39:22 AM |
Quote:Quote: I'm doing some research on my great-great grandfather, Richard Calhoun Smith. He served in the 8th Florida Infantry Regiment, Co. D - alongside his brother and several other family members (step-brothers, cousins, etc) that I am just now uncovering. While digging through his record, I found this page - Benet's record looks pretty generic, until I get to this page, Can anyone decipher this? Roll of furloughed soldiers - ????
withdrawn & placed with ????
Title - 2-26-17What does this mean? --Cranky Roll of furloughed soldiers - 2 names Withdrawn and placed with- My guess is that this is someone's name. A company captain? I don't see anyone in company D who would be a suspect but then again your ancestor is listed as Casinero Bennett. date or file?-2-26-17 --unclelooney
Florida 8th Infantry Co. G
LAST NAME FIRST NAME RNK MUST IN MUST OUT RM1 DETAIL1 DATE1 RM2 DETAIL2 DATE2
STEWART J.C. CN P FROM 1L TO CN; W GETTYBURG; CP & IM JOHNSON'S
ISLAND,
OHIO; DIED IN PRISON 17APR64; GRAVE NO. 168
MIZELL JOSHUA CN
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| ed bell
PA, USA
Posts: 123
| | Re: Puzzling notation in Confederate Soldier Service Record | | Posted on: 4/24/2010 2:09:18 PM | How about this?
"Roll of furloughed soldiers - 2 names withdrawn & placed with miscel. (miscellaneous) Files - 2-26-17"
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“It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see.” Thoreau
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| unclelooney
Minneapolis, MN, USA
Posts: 244
| | Re: Puzzling notation in Confederate Soldier Service Record | | Posted on: 4/28/2010 8:50:29 AM | Looks good!
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| Cranky
Tuscaloosa, AL, USA
Posts: 27
| | Re: Puzzling notation in Confederate Soldier Service Record | | Posted on: 5/21/2010 2:07:15 PM |
Quote:How about this?
"Roll of furloughed soldiers - 2 names withdrawn & placed with miscel. (miscellaneous) Files - 2-26-17"
--ed bell
Bingo! Thanks to everyone for helping me decipher this... I am still trying to figure out why my ancestor, Richard Calhoun Smith, had a page referencing the "personal papers" of this Benet fellow. I have contacted the Florida archives to see if perhaps they have a diary or something. I read somewhere that Benet was killed at Appomattox.
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| Sgtmajor
Scranton, PA,
Posts: 34
| | Re: Puzzling notation in Confederate Soldier Service Record | | Posted on: 5/21/2010 4:46:07 PM | Cranky,
The following information maybe of help.
Richard C. Smith. Enlisted Nov 18,1861 at Agustive,FLA. Privte
Mustered into Co "D" 8th FLA Infantry
Listed POW, Dec 11, 1862 at Fredericksburg,VA
Exchanged, (No date or place)
Last on rolls Dec 31,1864. (Place not listed)
It is a possibily that they listed him as on furlough, then when he didn't return placed him in the miscellaneous file, this is only a guess.
Sgtmajor
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| Cranky
Tuscaloosa, AL, USA
Posts: 27
| | Re: Puzzling notation in Confederate Soldier Service Record | | Posted on: 6/2/2010 11:20:02 PM | Thanks for all of the continuing assistance, here, guys! So, here's where we're at -
Months ago, I contacted the Florida Archives and just today received a response. I basically asked them if they had the "personal papers" of this Benet referenced in the Confederate Soldier Service Record of Richard Smith. The response was, "Actually, "personal papers" is just what we used to call the Confederate Soldier Service Record." Meaning I have been searching for a letter or some other personal property of this Benet when I should have just looked harder at his records.
I plowed through Benet's record again and again and finally found the Misc. category of the Confederate Soldier Service Records.
It reads,
Cassimero - Benit (PVT)
Co. D. 8th Fla. Inf.
Reference Card.
See Manuscript No. 2284
"Pay
Date - Dec. 31 1864"
Richard Smith has an identical file in his service record (NOT FILED IN MISC.!)
Smith - Richard C. (PVT)
Co. D 8th Fla. Inf.
Reference Card.
See Manuscript No. 2284
"Pay
Date - Dec. 31 1864"
I have no idea what Manuscript No. 2284 is, but I'd love to know.
So Sgtmajor's suggestion probably hit the nail on the head. It may be that both soldiers received furlough at the same time and were both withdrawn after the furlough expired. I know for a fact that Richard Calhoun Smith left on furlough to go home (in Florida) after receiving this paycheck. I believe, but am not certain, that Benet returned to his unit only in time to be killed days before Lee's surrender. Smith was not able to return to his command thanks to Sherman's army.
It should be noted for the record that at 80+ years old began to draw pension, as did his widow after he died. In other words, he was not a deserter.
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| Sgtmajor
Scranton, PA,
Posts: 34
| | Re: Puzzling notation in Confederate Soldier Service Record | | Posted on: 6/5/2010 9:40:42 PM | Cranky,
The amazing thing about pensions, both North and South, was how long it took to get a penison. Once a soldier or his widow applied for a pension it took years to get it. In my many years of researching soldiers, they would apply for a pension, and in many cases they had died, and then the widow would apply for the pension. When my gg-grandfather died in a prison camp, my gg-grandmother applied for his pension in 1865. She did not get his pension until 1874. His pension file is about an inch thick.
In some cases I found the husband and wife had died, and the minor child or children applied for the pension.
Sgtmajor
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| Cranky
Tuscaloosa, AL, USA
Posts: 27
| | Re: Puzzling notation in Confederate Soldier Service Record | | Posted on: 6/7/2010 5:14:40 PM | You're exactly right. Richard Calhoun applied for pension June 25, 1917. He died October 29, 1917. His widow's story is much the same.
I have one ancestor who lost a toe and later a thumb defending Atlanta. He was denied pension because a couple of neighbors accused him of desertion. His defense was that these neighbors were rivals of his and only meant to damage his reputation. He was given furlough and reports that a doctor later determined him disabled. The record is kind of fuzzy, but they often are. Either way, his application and repeated appeals equal 37 pages. I'm pretty sure he never got his pension.
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