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anemone
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Battle of the Barents Sea--1st Jan.1943
Posted on: 8/9/2016 7:00:12 AM
This engagement- known in RN circles as the "Battle of New Years Day"-however in the Kriegsmarine it is seen as the "Twilight of the German Surface Fleet"
Initially it was the action of four destroyers under command of Capt R S Sherbrooke RN who were tasked with protection of Russian convoy JW 51B. Despite it being mid winter and eternal darkness- a Uboat spotted the convoy and made report.The Pocket battleship Lutzow and the heavy cruiser Hipper and six large
destroyers were sent to intercept and destroy this convoy.


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This was a brilliant action by the Royal Navy; but an abyssmal showing by the Kriegsmarine-indeed it is hard to believe that the German's achieved nothing-where and what were their failings.Their whole plan of operation appears to me as non existent-almost as if they had stopped trying

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Michigan Dave
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Re: Battle of the Barents Sea--1st Jan.1943
Posted on: 8/9/2016 8:49:34 AM
Not a good day for the Kriegsmarine, a highlight for them was sinking a Minesweeper!?

imagine that, a minesweeper!
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anemone
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Re: Battle of the Barents Sea--1st Jan.1943
Posted on: 8/9/2016 9:03:05 AM
Like taking a sledgehammer to crack a nut Dave;but by hell she put up a fight for her life.

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anemone
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Re: Battle of the Barents Sea--1st Jan.1943
Posted on: 8/9/2016 1:05:29 PM
Kummetz’s plan was simple: with the six destroyers strung-out in a north-south search line, Hipper would stay to the north and make contact with the convoy from astern, herding the ships into the guns of the southerly Lützow. In the extreme north at this time of year, there was little real light: the surface forces would have to make do with a weak twilight at 08:05.

By 0718 Hipper had detected shadows to starboard, but postponed action until the visibility improved with the Arctic twilight. It was the destroyer Eckoldt which alerted the British that the convoy was threatened.

The destroyer Obdurate informed CAPT Sherbrooke, commander of the British escorting forces (aboard Onslow) of the situation. The latter immediately ordered the destroyers Obedient and Orwell to concentrate under his command, while the Obdurate was to maintain contact with the enemy. Achates was to lay smoke.

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Re: Battle of the Barents Sea--1st Jan.1943
Posted on: 8/10/2016 2:50:24 AM
Kummetz and his escort were so focused on the convoy and what defence laid in between; that they never picked up the approaching Force R, although the German cruiser was equipped with radar.

HMS Sheffield got his attention by opening fire, soon followed by HMS Jamaica. The first salvos fell around the cruiser, but the 5th one found its mark, exploding in one of the boiler rooms.

Admiral Hipper returned fire inaccurately, but following Hitler's orders, started to head away from the action.

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Re: Battle of the Barents Sea--1st Jan.1943
Posted on: 3/28/2017 2:23:03 PM
Hamstrung by Hitler’s restrictive orders, Kummetz decided he was already in enough trouble- for taking what Hitler would consider- an unacceptable risk, and he ordered a cease fire and a speedy withdrawal of all his units.

But Burnett suffered no such reluctance to engage. At 1133, the German destroyers Friedrich Eckholdt and Richard Beitzen mistook the Sheffield and Jamaica for the Hipper and Lützow and attempted to formate with them.

Before the German commanders realised their error, every gun on the two British cruisers opened up. Friedrich Eckholdt was quickly sunk and Richard Beitzen beat a hasty retreat-taking a few hits as she fled.

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Michigan Dave
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Re: Battle of the Barents Sea--1st Jan.1943
Posted on: 3/28/2017 6:21:55 PM
Hi Jim,

The Barents Sea, had to be freezing it's north of Norway and Russia,

just one engagement from the battle that you mentioned.

here's some pics;

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Re: Battle of the Barents Sea--1st Jan.1943
Posted on: 3/29/2017 3:51:16 AM
My thanks Dave for providing a cracking graphic story of the heavy cruiser Hipper.
Operation Rainbow had worked after all. Hipper had played the decoy to attract the escorts away from the convoy, but no tally of ships sunk; the convoy had then turned southward directly into the path of the pocket battleship Lützow-but she missed them , as expected one might say. All in all- the German big ships had been poorly fought-almost frightened of their own shadows, they were however somewhat hampered by periods of poor visibility=it is the only thing one can say in mitigation.


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Re: Battle of the Barents Sea--1st Jan.1943
Posted on: 3/30/2017 7:01:26 AM
Hitler-who had heard the jubilant BBC news was incandescent- not helped by what he interpreted as an insubordinate who was unwilling to report bad news.


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Grosseadmiral Raeder, who by this time knew what awaited him, was summoned to OKW headquarters, and Hitler’s tirade began anew. With veins standing out on his neck he began a peroration which lasted nearly an hour and a half. This operation only confirmed what he had instinctively felt all along--that the surface fleet was completely useless and that it was poorly staffed and ineptly commanded.

The three battleships Tirpitz , Schleswig-Holstein and Schlesien , the two pocket battleships Admiral Scheer and Lützow , the battle-cruisers Scharnhorst and Gneisenau , the heavy cruisers Hipper and Prinz Eugen , and the light cruisers Emden , Köln , Leipzig , and Nürnberg would all be decommissioned and summarily scrapped.


Source-German Naval History

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