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Jim Semler
Princeton Junction, NJ, USA
Posts: 476
 | | Hills and knolls | | Posted on: 7/1/2010 3:53:18 PM | I can think of 11 hills with names, and 4 knolls with names, within the Gettysburg Park boundaries.
Anyone come up with more?
Jim Semler
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civilwarguyincanada
Southern, ON, Canada
Posts: 1416
| | Re: Hills and knolls | | Posted on: 7/1/2010 4:08:20 PM | ...grabs a piece of paper and starts writing...
Good one, Jim!
Cheers
Ed
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graniteman
Merrimack, NH, USA
Posts: 1049
| | Re: Hills and knolls | | Posted on: 7/1/2010 4:19:22 PM | Um, maybe - but I'd have to know the 11+4 you were thinking of! 
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Jim Semler
Princeton Junction, NJ, USA
Posts: 476
| | Re: Hills and knolls | | Posted on: 7/1/2010 4:53:28 PM | Alan.....I'll show you mine, if you show me yours. 
I did consider Wolf's Hill and Bream's Hill as "out of bounds".
Jim Semler
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graniteman
Merrimack, NH, USA
Posts: 1049
| | Re: Hills and knolls | | Posted on: 7/1/2010 5:36:03 PM | OK, what are the bounds?
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Judi
East Earl, PA, USA
Posts: 2
| | Re: Hills and knolls | | Posted on: 7/1/2010 5:45:22 PM | Are you counting ridges as hills?
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Jim Semler
Princeton Junction, NJ, USA
Posts: 476
| | Re: Hills and knolls | | Posted on: 7/1/2010 7:12:40 PM | OK...for bounds, I used the V.C. Official Map and Guide, which is the hand-out for visitors. The park property is outlined in green.
No, I did not consider ridges such as Seminary, Cemetery, and Houck's as hills.
Jim Semler
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Bill N-T
Hicksville, L.I., NY, USA
Posts: 1863
| | Re: Hills and knolls | | Posted on: 7/4/2010 10:57:06 AM | I've only been able to come up with 9 hills (counting Cemetery Hill and East Cemetery Hill as two hills) and two knolls. I need to study my gettysburg geography.
Bill N-T
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Jim Semler
Princeton Junction, NJ, USA
Posts: 476
| | Re: Hills and knolls | | Posted on: 7/4/2010 3:51:55 PM | Here is my list of hills and knolls within the Park boundaries:
Hills:
1. Big Round Top
2. Little Round Top
3. Oak
4. Cemetery (including East Cemetery)
5. Benners
6. Culps
7. Munshower
8. Day/Regular
9. Stoney
10. Bushmans
11. Powers
12. Spangler Hill (Edit per Mike Waricher)
Knolls:
1. Stevens/McKnight
2. Barlow/Blocher
3. Kinzie
4. Hancock
5. Broad Flat (Edit per John Valori)
6. Bennings (Edit per Mike Waricher)
Corrections and additions welcomed.
Hanlon Coons PM'd a list of 13 hills, which included all the above, plus Wolf's Hill and Keckler's Hill. Don't know if these two are within the boundaries.
For knolls, he didn't list Kinzie's, but did list The Broad Flat Knoll north of the Bliss Farm.
Jim Semler
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Bill N-T
Hicksville, L.I., NY, USA
Posts: 1863
| | Re: Hills and knolls | | Posted on: 7/4/2010 5:12:15 PM | Never thought of Munshower Hill.
Where is Day/Regular Hill?
Stevens & Barlow I had, was not aware of the other two. Where is Kinze Knoll?
Bill N-T
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gettysburgerrn
massapequa, NY, USA
Posts: 463
| | Re: Hills and knolls | | Posted on: 7/5/2010 6:20:00 AM | I think Day's /Regular hill is the little hill just north west of the valley of death and north of Devil's Den and slightly east of the road (which I cannot remember) where the regular plaques are. From what I understand both of Day's Regular brigades were posted there (on the hill) prior to being commited into the wheatfield.
In other words as you proceed up crawford avenue in a southerly direction (towards Devil's Den) it is on your right (before devils den and I think after General Crawford's monument)
I think thats it anyway....
ken
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gettysburgerrn
massapequa, NY, USA
Posts: 463
| | Re: Hills and knolls | | Posted on: 7/5/2010 6:21:29 AM | Wasn't there a hill called something like "Sheep haven hill" or something like that?
Ken
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Jim Semler
Princeton Junction, NJ, USA
Posts: 476
| | Re: Hills and knolls | | Posted on: 7/5/2010 9:18:50 AM | Bill...Ken has described the location of the Day/Regular Hill.
Hancock Knoll is the small knoll where Gen. Hancock was wounded.
Kinzie Knoll is located on the west side of the Baltimore Pike at the intersection with Hunt Ave. This is where the two 12th Corps batteries of Lt. Kinzie (4 Napoleons) and Lt. Rugg (6 Napoleons) fired on the Confederates, on lower Culp's Hill, who occupied the Union breastworks on early morning July 3rd. You can find their markers there.
Edit: WEST side of the Baltimore Pike
Jim Semler
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Jim Semler
Princeton Junction, NJ, USA
Posts: 476
| | Re: Hills and knolls | | Posted on: 7/5/2010 9:44:16 AM | Ken....There is a Sheep Heaven Hill, just east of Culp's Hill, but it may be outside the boundaries of Gettysburg Military Park.
Jim Semler
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Red Bailey
Dewey, AZ, USA
Posts: 840
| | Re: Hills and knolls | | Posted on: 7/5/2010 1:26:35 PM |
Quote:Ken....There is a Sheep Heaven Hill, just east of Culp's Hill, but it may be outside the boundaries of Gettysburg Military Park.
Jim Semler
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The year 2000 edition of the park map by Trailhead Graphics shows the eastern park boundry extending up onto the western slope of Sheep Heaven Hill. Park seems to have most of that western slope.
My latest USGS topo map only shows a narrow strip of Park area extending up the western slope. USGS map says boundaries, other than corporate, verified in 1998. That narrow strip has the monuments for Neill's Brigade's 49th/33rd NY, 43rd NY, 61st PA, 7th ME, & Tilton's Brigade's 18th MA. (Neill's 77th NY monument is shown west of the Baltimore Pike on Power's Hill.)
Why the descrepency of that Park area between 1998 and 2000? Looks like some kind of mistake showing Park Boundary to me.
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hanlon coons
Lancaster, PA, USA
Posts: 122
| | Re: Hills and knolls | | Posted on: 7/5/2010 3:14:00 PM | Jim,
I didn't even think of Kinzie's Knoll. Another hill that came to my attention while watching a Troy Harman tour on PCN a few days ago is "Hospital Hill". Again, I'm not sure if that is within the official boundaries of the park.
JV
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krtrains
North Point, MD, USA
Posts: 228
| | Re: Hills and knolls | | Posted on: 7/5/2010 4:37:00 PM | Hospital Hill is not on park property. It is located east of the intersection of the Hunterstown Rd. and the York Rd. - current Route 30.
A Wolf family farm was on the hill at the time of the battle. After the battle Camp Letterman was established there as a main hospital to centralize the care of the wounded and provide rail access to other cities so the wounded could be evacuated and dispersed. The hill was originally part of the plans and was to be the eastern entrance to the park.
Currently there is a housing development and a Giant shopping center on the hill. The remaining part of the hill is to be a storage facility and more housing.
Ken
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Jim Semler
Princeton Junction, NJ, USA
Posts: 476
| | Re: Hills and knolls | | Posted on: 7/5/2010 7:11:44 PM | And don't forget A.P. Hill out on Seminary Ridge!
Jim Semler
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Michael Waricher
Carlisle, PA, USA
Posts: 644
| | Re: Hills and knolls | | Posted on: 7/6/2010 9:39:38 PM | Rick will remind you not to forget Hill 396 !!
There's also Benning's Knoll southwest of Devil's Den.
And don't Tim and Garry distinguish between Culp's (upper) and Spangler's (lower) Hills ? 
Mike
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civilwarguyincanada
Southern, ON, Canada
Posts: 1416
| | Re: Hills and knolls | | Posted on: 7/6/2010 9:52:49 PM | ...hopes that someone doesn't try to make a mountain out of a...
Oh, never mind!
Cheers
Ed
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Rick Allen
Baltimore , MD, USA
Posts: 735
| | Re: Hills and knolls | | Posted on: 7/7/2010 6:11:19 AM | True Mike, 396 should certainly count, (lacking a name hurts its chances I guess ) and I'm also a fan of Bennings Knoll.......Tim and Garry will be proud of you for using the term.
Regards,
Rick
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Bill N-T
Hicksville, L.I., NY, USA
Posts: 1863
| | Re: Hills and knolls | | Posted on: 7/7/2010 6:25:41 AM | Ahhh Yes,
Bennings Knoll and Spangler Hill, those two should definitely be added to the list.
Jim,
AP Hill ??
Bill N-T
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krtrains
North Point, MD, USA
Posts: 228
| | Re: Hills and knolls | | Posted on: 7/7/2010 8:05:52 PM |
Quote:The year 2000 edition of the park map by Trailhead Graphics shows the eastern park boundry extending up onto the western slope of Sheep Heaven Hill. Park seems to have most of that western slope.
Why the descrepency of that Park area between 1998 and 2000? Looks like some kind of mistake showing Park Boundary to me.
--Red Bailey
Red
Could That be the Taney Farm?
Ken
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Culp's Hill
Reisterstown, MD, USA
Posts: 241
| | Re: Hills and knolls | | Posted on: 7/23/2010 1:07:11 AM | How about the knoll used by Cowan to retreat to during the climax of PPT?
CH
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Jim Semler
Princeton Junction, NJ, USA
Posts: 476
| | Re: Hills and knolls | | Posted on: 7/25/2010 5:10:56 PM |
Quote:How about the knoll used by Cowan to retreat to during the climax of PPT?
Culp's Hill (Lee)
Good question, Lee....I don't know anything about Cowan's position after the PPT assault, but I have often wondered about the ground that the Pennsylvania Memorial sits on.
I've heard it was some sort of "high ground" that was somewhat leveled to build the memorial. Wouldn't that have been a good placement for some of McGilvery's artillery line?
Can you help us out here Red Bailey? Was it a knoll or a hill, and what was the elevation in 1863?
Jim Semler
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Steve F
Hampstead, NH, USA
Posts: 1751
| | Re: Hills and knolls | | Posted on: 7/25/2010 7:17:20 PM | I've been reading an old issue of GB Mag about Johnston's recon. It mentions Black Cat Knoll, somewhere down south of BRT and slightly west. It figures in Killcavalry's actions on July 3.
Never heard of this one before. Any clues?
Steve
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cwwiles
Mount Laurel, NJ, USA
Posts: 43
| | Re: Hills and knolls | | Posted on: 7/25/2010 10:22:30 PM | Like Steve, I remember seeing an artillery map and I believe it was in a Gettysburg Magazine that references "Alexander's Knoll" somewhere off of West Confederate Avenue toward the Emmitsburg Road.
Don
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