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 (1939-1945) WWII Battles
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anemone
DONCASTER S. YORKS, UK
Posts: 6558
German Ace Tank Destroyer on the Eastern Front
Posted on: 1/27/2018 4:05:42 AM
All in all, Hans-Ulrich Rudel flew 2,500 combat missions -- more than any pilot ever, for any country, in any period of time. His stats speak for themselves – 11 airplanes, 519 tanks, 4 trains, 70 landing craft, two cruisers, a destroyer, a battleship, and over 1,000 enemy trucks and transport vehicles met their ends at his hands.

He received the Knight's Cross (Germany's answer to the Victoria Cross or the Medal of Honor) five times – they seriously had to invent shit to add to his Knight's Cross, because there wasn't anything in the book for what you give a guy who already has the Cross with oak leaves, swords, diamonds, bells, whistles,

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BWilson
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Re: German Ace Tank Destroyer on the Eastern Front
Posted on: 1/27/2018 6:18:03 AM
 Heh, interesting site. But I thought this fellow's story was more interesting. Do we still have men of this caliber? One wonders.

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BW
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anemone
DONCASTER S. YORKS, UK
Posts: 6558
Re: German Ace Tank Destroyer on the Eastern Front
Posted on: 1/27/2018 6:56:54 AM
Thanks for the comment Bill and I am pretty sure there are men of Rudel's calibre toda in all !walks of life.Rudel was no doubt a fanatic and despite the higherst of risks fought on.men and women climb mountains ,trek to the Poles ans row across the Atlantic-aye and much more

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Jim"y
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redcoat
Stockport, UK
Posts: 253
Re: German Ace Tank Destroyer on the Eastern Front
Posted on: 2/26/2018 2:03:50 PM

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All in all, Hans-Ulrich Rudel flew 2,500 combat missions -- more than any pilot ever, for any country, in any period of time. His stats speak for themselves – 11 airplanes, 519 tanks, 4 trains, 70 landing craft, two cruisers, a destroyer, a battleship, and over 1,000 enemy trucks and transport vehicles met their ends at his hands.

He received the Knight's Cross (Germany's answer to the Victoria Cross or the Medal of Honor) five times – they seriously had to invent shit to add to his Knight's Cross, because there wasn't anything in the book for what you give a guy who already has the Cross with oak leaves, swords, diamonds, bells, whistles,

ln a study of claims by ground attack aircraft by the Allies during the Normandy campaign studying all the destroyed enemy tanks left behind on the battlefield it was discovered that ground attack aircraft over claimed AFV victories by a factor of ten.
Rudel’s AFV claims are impossible to verify, but some post war research has been done on Rudel’s warship claims. He did take part in the attack on the Marat and he was one of 2 pilots who hit the already crippled ship with their bombs, but the claims on the 2 cruisers have not been able to be verified against Soviet losses, though a number of smaller warships and training ships were sunk or damaged in the attacks on ships in port around Leningrad.

anemone
DONCASTER S. YORKS, UK
Posts: 6558
Re: German Ace Tank Destroyer on the Eastern Front
Posted on: 5/15/2018 10:10:02 AM
n 8 February 1945, a 40 mm shell hit his aircraft. He was badly wounded in the right foot and crash landed inside German lines. His life was saved by his observer Ernst Gadermann who stemmed the bleeding, but Rudel’s leg was amputated below the knee. He returned to operations on 25 March 1945, claiming 26 more tanks destroyed before the end of the war.

Determined not to fall into Soviet hands, he led three Ju 87s and four FW 190s westward from Bohemia in a 2-hour flight. Landing at Kitzingen airfield, held by the US 405th Fighter Group, Rudel had his men lock the brakes and collapse the landing gear to make the aircraft useless to the Americans and to render the airfield unusable by blocking the airstrip. Then he surrendered to U.S. forces, on 8 May 1945.

Eleven months in prisoner of war camps followed. Released by the Americans, he moved to Argentina in 1948.

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Jim
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littlepowell
, SC, USA
Posts: 459
Re: German Ace Tank Destroyer on the Eastern Front
Posted on: 5/17/2018 1:31:17 PM

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 Heh, interesting site. But I thought this fellow's story was more interesting. Do we still have men of this caliber? One wonders.

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Cheers

BW
--BWilson


What a story! They could make a movie based on him, and it would be the most badass WWII movie ever made.
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dt509er
Santa Rosa, CA, USA
Posts: 558
Re: German Ace Tank Destroyer on the Eastern Front
Posted on: 5/17/2018 7:37:07 PM

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All in all, Hans-Ulrich Rudel flew 2,500 combat missions -- more than any pilot ever, for any country, in any period of time. His stats speak for themselves – 11 airplanes, 519 tanks, 4 trains, 70 landing craft, two cruisers, a destroyer, a battleship, and over 1,000 enemy trucks and transport vehicles met their ends at his hands.

He received the Knight's Cross (Germany's answer to the Victoria Cross or the Medal of Honor) five times – they seriously had to invent shit to add to his Knight's Cross, because there wasn't anything in the book for what you give a guy who already has the Cross with oak leaves, swords, diamonds, bells, whistles,

ln a study of claims by ground attack aircraft by the Allies during the Normandy campaign studying all the destroyed enemy tanks left behind on the battlefield it was discovered that ground attack aircraft over claimed AFV victories by a factor of ten.
Rudel’s AFV claims are impossible to verify, but some post war research has been done on Rudel’s warship claims. He did take part in the attack on the Marat and he was one of 2 pilots who hit the already crippled ship with their bombs, but the claims on the 2 cruisers have not been able to be verified against Soviet losses, though a number of smaller warships and training ships were sunk or damaged in the attacks on ships in port around Leningrad.

--redcoat



My understanding is that Rudel was awarded the golden oak leaves with swords and diamonds to the knight’s cross of the iron cross, the only one of its kind.

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Killroy63
Pinson, AL, USA
Posts: 36
Re: German Ace Tank Destroyer on the Eastern Front
Posted on: 5/18/2018 8:19:27 PM
According to his Wikipedia entry, of Rudel's roughly 2500 combat missions, over 2000 of them were conducted in the "obsolete" JU-97 Stuka. Let's remember that Stukas were easy prey as far back as the Battle Of Britain in 1940, yet Rudel continued to fly it with amazing success on the Easter Front well into 1944.

I think it is no coincidence that almost all of the German top scoring aces amassed most of their victories over the Soviet Union, as both the Russian technology and the skill level of their pilots, for the most part, lagged will behind that of the West.

BWilson
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Re: German Ace Tank Destroyer on the Eastern Front
Posted on: 5/21/2018 6:25:11 AM

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 Heh, interesting site. But I thought this fellow's story was more interesting. Do we still have men of this caliber? One wonders.

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Cheers

BW
--BWilson


What a story! They could make a movie based on him, and it would be the most badass WWII movie ever made.
--littlepowell


littlepowell,

 Yeah, an amazing feat of combat and survival. The way the guy wrote that article was humorous; the introductory rant was a classic. For those who haven't checked it out yet, here is a small bit about Sergeant Joe Beyrle, American paratrooper:


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With bullets planking off the roof around him, in pitch darkness, with his parachute still spread out around him, Joe Beyrle shimmied down off the roof, slammed a mag into his M1 Carbine, and started out on a mission so badass that when you visit the church at Come du Mond today you can see a plaque that looks like this:




Cheers,

BW
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