The greatest speech ever articulated, defining what Democracy was all about.

A big world, but few have the stature of Lincoln. Nor his presence which has transcended the ages.

Churchill never had to confront a civil war. MLK gave his speech in the shadow of the Lincoln Memorial. THAT, in itself, speaks to the greatness of Lincoln.

"I’m sure that Churchill himself was indebted to that American tradition."

Not only tradition, but Churchill's Mother was an American, which makes him, an American citizen.

I feel that a loss by the United States and the forming of a separate nation had greater ramifications for the World and especially Great Britain. If there were 2 Americas, then the Lend Lease and the US being the Arsenal of Democracy does not come into existence. US destroyers are not sent to GB. And the speech " We will fight them on the beaches"....recall that it ends with the New World , with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and liberation of the old". That does not occur if there is a Confederacy.

Wasn't Churchill's Mom, Jennie, a daughter of Leonard Jerome, a wealthy American businessman?


It is my impression that in 1963, US President John F. Kennedy, acting under authorisation granted by an Act of Congress, proclaimed him an honorary citizen of the United States.

Public Law 88-6 (1963) granted honorary citizenship to Winston Churchill.

Presidents just can't make people citizens. If that was the case, all those illegals who are seeking asylum would be made citizens by the sitting President.

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Yes, and I don't think that US citizenship can be conferred on a foreign born child with one American parent unless that parent was living in the US for some period of time. What were the regulations when Winston was born in 1874?

Well, NY, while expressing admiration for Lincoln's timely speech, I cannot accept that his address at Gettysburg was the greatest speech ever made. That is a decidedly American frame of reference.

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WRONG!! US citizenship can be conferred!!!!

Senator Cruz from Texas was born of aa US Mother in Canada. Rafael Edward Cruz was born on December 22, 1970, at Foothills Medical Centre in Calgary, Alberta, Canada, to Eleanor Elizabeth (née Darragh) Wilson and Rafael Cruz. Cruz's mother was born in Wilmington, Delaware. She is of three-quarters Irish and one-quarter Italian descent, and earned an undergraduate degree in mathematics from Rice University in the 1950s.
Cruz's father, Rafael, was born and raised in Cuba, the son of a Canary Islander who immigrated to Cuba as a child. As a teenager in the 1950s, Rafael Cruz was beaten by agents of Fulgencio Batista for opposing the Batista regime. He left Cuba in 1957 to attend the University of Texas at Austin and obtained political asylum in the United States after his four-year student visa expired. He earned Canadian citizenship in 1973 and became a naturalized United States citizen in 2005.

I learned this is Civics, 101 Honors section.

Is there another frame of reference, for the Gettysburg Address?

Children born abroad to a U.S. citizen parent(s) (under the age of 18) may have a claim to U.S. citizenship. The following is a brief description of the various circumstances under which a child born abroad may acquire U.S. citizenship. For further information please select the description below that best fits your family circumstances.

Transmission of U.S. citizenship depends on:

At least one parent having the nationality of the United States at the time of the child’s birth;
The existence of a blood relationship between the child and U.S. citizen parent(s);
Documentary evidence demonstrating the U.S. citizen parent(s)’ presence in the United States prior to the child’s birth, as specified in the Transmission Requirements Table below.

A child born outside of the United States to one U.S. citizen parent and one non-U.S. citizen parent may be entitled to citizenship providing the U.S. citizen parent had been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for five years, at least two years of which were after s/he reached the age of fourteen.

Even Winston Churchill admitted he was "half American by blood".

Even Winston Churchill admitted he was "half American by blood".

I learned this is Civics, 101 Honors section.

NYGiant

Didn't you take Honors classes?

The site of the platform and where Lincoln stood, has been 99% identified.

Umm, George G. Meade, although born in Cadiz, Spain, was an American citizen. Churchill was not an American citizen because when he reached his majority he did not seek American citizenship.

Umm, George G. Meade, although born in Cadiz, Spain, was an American citizen. Churchill was not an American citizen because when he reached his majority he did not seek American citizenship.

That is not correct, sorry.

Prior to 1934, U.S. citizen mothers could not transmit U.S. citizenship to children born abroad; only U.S. citizen fathers could do that. In 1994, Congress passed the Immigration and Nationality Technical Corrections Act, section 101 (a)(2) of which added INA 301(h) (8 USC 1401(h)) which granted citizenship to people born abroad to a U.S. citizen mother before 1934:

Nice try though.

Cheers, NYGiant