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Brian Grafton
Victoria BC Canada
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This day in World History! Continued
2/25/2022 11:03:35 PM
Just a further note to The Communist Manifesto, I noted today a response to a group reading of the volume.

At a time of increased banning and condemning certain volumes, this rather hidden story out of RI bothers me more than I can say.

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Cheers.
Brian G
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Michigan Dave
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This day in World History! Continued
2/26/2022 8:30:34 AM
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1779 George Rogers Clark defeats the British at Vincennes Indiana, A big win out west for them! Were Indians involved?? Anyone?

1786 Gen Lord Cornwallis appointed Governor General of India!? Go figure, he loses at Yorktown, & then he's rewarded! He must of had connections? What say you??

1861 CSA Gen Bedford Forrest raids Tennessee! How good of a Confederate Officer was he?? Anyone??

1917, the Zimmerman Note is deciphered! The US is really upset, the Germans trying to get Mexico to attack the US!
Anyone have a site with the exact contents of the note? & how it went down? Thanks Michael for the response!

1924 Mahatmah Gandhi released from jail by the British, why was he in there in the 1st place? Were the British fair to India?? Comments on the Empire! Anyone??

1945 Egypt & Syria declare war on Germany! Were they just jumping on the bandwagon, now that the Nazis were mostly defeated?? Comments?

Anything else? Left on here to discuss? Anyone?

Thanks for your participation!
MD




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Michigan Dave
Muskegon MI USA
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This day in World History! Continued
2/26/2022 8:50:37 AM
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How about today's, 2-26 in history.
Lots to discuss here!?

1616 the Roman Inquisition forces Galileo to abandon his theory that the Earth, & Planets revolve around the Sun! Everyone knows that everything revolves around the Earth, just ask the religious leaders, right!? What say you??

1815 Napoleon Bonaparte begins his reconquest of France! Why was the Army always supportive of him? Comments??

1852 RN troop ship Birkenhead sinks off South Africa killing 458, with A 193 surviving! Wow this had to be a huge ship for this era to be carrying so many!? Any one have the story on this???

1885 the Berlin Conference give the Congo to Belgium and Nigeria to the British! How can they do this? What about the natives who live there!!?? Comments on forced colonialism!?? Anyone??

1914 HMHS Britainnic launched in Belfast, what fate awaits Titanic s sister ship?? Anyone??

1917 Russian Army mutineers against the Tzar Nicholas! To bad today's Russian Army won't mutiny against Putin!! What say you??

1924 trial of Adolf Hitler goes on for treason! To bad he wasn't shot! Comments, how did he weasel out of this predicament!? Anyone??

1935 the Luftwaffe is reformed, despite being outlawed by treaty! How did the Germans manage this!?? & upgrade their navy, & army as well? Doesnt anyone monitor these agreements?? What say you??

1952 WSC announces that the British have the bomb! Did this keep them as A super power!?? What say you??

We know this thread pales in comparison to events in Ukraine, but we must carry on, hopefully in the long run things will work out there??

Regards, & peace,
MD

And Brian, Lets not open a new can of worms, with the Communist Manifesto! ☺!

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morris crumley
Dunwoody GA USA
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This day in World History! Continued
2/26/2022 11:24:20 AM


Gee....a group coming together to "celebrate" the anniversary of Marx and Engels publishing the Communist Manifesto ......and protesters with a Nazi flag.......hard for me to care about either side. Both despicable alike. ...but exercising their rights as citizens . I would have actual concern if one side or the other was threatened with the seizure of their bank accounts, or punished financially for utilizing their freedom and rights!

Respects, Morris
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George
Centre Hastings ON Canada
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This day in World History! Continued
2/26/2022 12:36:14 PM
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1952 WSC announces that the British have the bomb! Did this keep them as A super power!?? What say you??


It should not be a surprise that the British developed an A-bomb. They had been working nuclear reactions since 1939 and had a lot of knowledge in the field. They knew that a small mass of uranium 235 could produce a chain reaction and their scientists had proposed how a weapon could be assembled.

The British were working on a secret project called tube alloys. Canada was involved in this research at a lab in Montréal. And this was before the Manhattan Project. The Quebec Agreement which was a secret agreement said that the US and Britain would share technology and pool resources to produce a nuclear weapon. So British Tube Alloys amalgamated with the Manhattan Project. Canada was not a signatory but did have representation on the Combined Policy Committee. This acknowledged Canada's involvement in the research.

In the end, the US decided however to keep certain aspects of development of the bomb from the British. This actually shocked Churchill and he spoke to FDR about it in 1943. The Québec Agreement was supposed to resolve the issue and provided for complete collaboration on the bomb project.

The first thing that the British learned was that the US was putting massive amounts of money into the bomb project, much more than the British were able to afford and so it was decided that British scientists should move to the US to assist with the research.

Still the British were not privy to specific information regarding the production of plutonium or the actual design of the bomb. This was kept from them. The British contributed a great deal and learned a great deal which led to the development of their own bomb.

By 1948, the Québec Agreement had been altered and the US became more protective of its scientific breakthroughs. President Truman pulled out of the deal.

From the British perspective, the US was determined to keep this military application of nuclear technology to itself and while weakened considerably from having fought two major wars in the first have of the century, Britain decided that it needed its own nuclear weapon.

It is ironic that the British were initially concerned that they would be sharing their scientific knowledge with a non-belligerent, the US when it was later discovered that the British programme had been infiltrated by Soviet spies. And in 1945 a Soviet cypher clerk working in the Soviet embassy in Ottawa defected to the Canadians with information that shocked the western allies. The USSR had planted operatives in critical places in many of the western governments including Canada and the US. In retrospect, the US caution and decision to renege on the Quebec Agreement is understandable.

By 1947 Britain realized that the US had cut them out of the information stream and so decided to go it alone to develop a bomb. They immediately got the scientists together who had worked on the Manhattan Project and collated the information that they had on the nuclear weapon. They were able to obtain uranium from the Congo and from Canada and Canada also provided some of the plutonium produced at its nuclear plant in Chalk River, Ontario.

By 1952, they had their bomb too. And so the British made excellent use of the knowledge gained by their scientists who had working on the Manhattan Project and so their bomb was of a similar design. Unfortunately, one of the Soviet spies who had infiltrated the British programme, Fuchs, had also passed information to the Soviets.

Was Britain still a superpower? I suppose not. But nuclear weapons are a bit of a leveller aren't they? Even a small country with nuclear weapons can raise hell if it so chose. See North Korea.

Cheers,

George


Michigan Dave
Muskegon MI USA
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This day in World History! Continued
2/27/2022 10:26:07 AM
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How about today's, 2-26 in history.
Lots to discuss here!?

1616 the Roman Inquisition forces Galileo to abandon his theory that the Earth, & Planets revolve around the Sun! Everyone knows that everything revolves around the Earth, just ask the religious leaders, right!? What say you??

1815 Napoleon Bonaparte begins his reconquest of France! Why was the Army always supportive of him? Comments??

1852 RN troop ship Birkenhead sinks off South Africa killing 458, with A 193 surviving! Wow this had to be a huge ship for this era to be carrying so many!? Any one have the story on this???

1885 the Berlin Conference give the Congo to Belgium and Nigeria to the British! How can they do this? What about the natives who live there!!?? Comments on forced colonialism!?? Anyone??

1914 HMHS Britainnic launched in Belfast, what fate awaits Titanic s sister ship?? Anyone??

1917 Russian Army mutineers against the Tzar Nicholas! To bad today's Russian Army won't mutiny against Putin!! What say you??

1924 trial of Adolf Hitler goes on for treason! To bad he wasn't shot! Comments, how did he weasel out of this predicament!? Anyone??

1935 the Luftwaffe is reformed, despite being outlawed by treaty! How did the Germans manage this!?? & upgrade their navy, & army as well? Doesnt anyone monitor these agreements?? What say you??

1952 WSC announces that the British have the bomb! Did this keep them as A super power!??Thanks George, good answer!

We know this thread pales in comparison to events in Ukraine, but we must carry on, hopefully in the long run things will work out there??

Still some good topics for discussion here!? Feel free to comment on any of them??

Regards, & peace,
Check for 2-27 in history
MD

And George, thanks for the reply on Great Britains path to being Nuclear!


BTW Sometimes history doesn't change! In 1861, the Russians shoot at Poles protesting Russian rule in Poland near Warsaw! How many times in history has Russia been a ruthless agressor!? Any one?? What say you??

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George
Centre Hastings ON Canada
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This day in World History! Continued
2/27/2022 1:00:31 PM
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1952 WSC announces that the British have the bomb! Did this keep them as A super power!??Thanks George, good answer!


I just wanted to add that Canada had also developed nuclear capability. Canada had played a lesser role in the development of the bomb.

In 1946 Canada established a regulatory board for nuclear research. Nuclear research in Canada was taking place at the Chalk River nuclear plant which had been opened in 1944 as a collaboration between Canadian and British nuclear scientists. In 1945 the first nuclear reaction outside of the US took place at Chalk River. Chalk River produced 255 kilograms of plutonium from spent reactor fuel for use in the production of the A-bomb in the US.d

And I believe that the first nuclear meltdown in the world took place at Chalk River in 1952.

Canada signed the nuclear non-proliferation agreement and has never produced a nuclear weapon. Given that Canada has had nuclear capability since 1944, it is probable that a bomb could be built. You have to deliver it though, don't you?
But the country has chosen to use its nuclear capability only for peaceful purposes and Canada's first reactor operating on the CANDU system came on stream in 1962.



I suspect that the US would not have appreciated the development of a nuclear weapons programme on its northern border. But for a short time, Canada did allow the US to place nuclear missiles on its soil. So far as we know, these are long gone.

Our official anti-nuke policy is somewhat hypocritical as we are protected under the nuclear umbrella held by the US. Canada toyed with the idea of buying nuclear submarines in the '80's but were told quite clearly by the US government that it would find that development "troubling". And so we bought some old crock diesels from the UK.

When the US wanted to place missiles in Canada and Canada demurred, the US threatened to place them all along the international border. The implication was clear that the US would attempt to destroy USSR missiles over Canadian territory. And so we did allow nuclear tipped Bomarc missiles for a short time.

We also know that a nuclear exchange with Russia would still likely take place over Canada and it is worrisome.

Cheers,

George

Michigan Dave
Muskegon MI USA
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This day in World History! Continued
2/28/2022 11:07:06 AM
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1646 Roger Scott tried in Massachusetts for sleeping in church! I hope they threw the book at him!? Comments?

1838 Roger Nelson proclaims Quebec's independence! How long did that last?? Comments?

1849 gold discovered in California! Hence the 49ers! What gold rush was the most lucrative?? What say you??

1859, Arkansas makes free blacks choose slavery or deportation!? Some choice? Comments on the plights of Blacks in the South at this time!? Anyone??

1942 the Japanese invade Java! Where were the Allies?? Comments??

1991 Gulf War in Iraq ends! Can anyone give a synopsis of it??

Any new topics? Anyone??

Damn Putin!!!
Regards,
MD


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Brian Grafton
Victoria BC Canada
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This day in World History! Continued
2/28/2022 6:52:59 PM
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1942 the Japanese invade Java! Where were the Allies?? Comments??

Running. On 15 Feb 1942 Singapore fell to the Japanese. The Dutch had some assets to show their Imperial flag under, but most were weakened by attrition and were finally pounded into submission with Battle of the Java Sea, when an ABDA fleet attempted faced the Japanese fleet and was beaten. This meant the effective end of the Dutch East Asian Empire. Surviving ships were in no condition to face further battle with Japan, and needed not just ports but major dockyard facilities. Singapore was gone. Hong Kong. Cavite. British surviving ships headed for Trincomalee (Sri Lanka) as the Japanese fleet expanded its influence. IIRC, elements of the RN would ultimately retreat to Aden (Yemen) as their strength diminished wrt Japanese power. I don’t know where US ships went, though their choices were limited at the time.

Cheers.
Brian G
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Michigan Dave
Muskegon MI USA
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This day in World History! Continued
3/1/2022 11:45:43 AM
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1646 Roger Scott tried in Massachusetts for sleeping in church! I hope they threw the book at him!? Comments?

1838 Roger Nelson proclaims Quebec's independence! How long did that last?? Comments?

1849 gold discovered in California! Hence the 49ers! What gold rush was the most lucrative?? What say you??

1859, Arkansas makes free blacks choose slavery or deportation!? Some choice? Comments on the plights of Blacks in the South at this time!? Anyone??

1942 the Japanese invade Java! Where were the Allies?? Thanks Brian for ans. Of Japanese invasion!

1991 Gulf War in Iraq ends! Can anyone give a synopsis of it??

Any new topics? For 3-1, Anyone?? NEWTOPICS for March 1st! New Posts! Anyone!??

1633 Champlain reclaims commander of New France! Was he a good one? Anyone?

1692 Salem Witch Trials in full swing!? They actually believed in witches, & killed them! What say you??

1945 the US annexes Texas! How did this come about? Anyone??

1872 Yellowstone becomes the 1st US National Park! What is Canada's1st & best National Park?? Or your nations best National Park!?? COMMENTS? Anyone?

1913 David Beatty becomes Admiral of the RN's Battle group! What's your take on Beatty!?? Anyone? Didn't he have competition from another great RN naval commander??

1941-42 Japan is virtually unbeatable!? Why? What factors played into this?? Anyone?

Damn Putin!!!
Regards,
MD



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George
Centre Hastings ON Canada
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This day in World History! Continued
3/2/2022 9:04:28 AM
quote]1838 Roger Nelson proclaims Quebec's independence! How long did that last?? Comments?


Pretty sure that it was Robert Nelson who was a prominent and by all accounts, excellent surgeon in Lower Canada, now Québec. He also had been a politician and served in the legislature in Lower Canada.

There had been rebellions in both Upper and Lower Canada in 1837. Both were put down by the British and punishments were handed out that included hanging for treason.

Nelson was a reformer and he and many others sought more representative government for the colony. However, Nelson did not participate in the insurrection in 1837. He was however arrested and imprisoned for a good length of time because as an outspoken proponent of representative government, he looked the part of an insurrectionist. It is likely that the fact that his brother had participated in one of the battles against the British that the British assumed that he must have been part of the events.

Upon his release he was instrumental in the creation of insurrectionist cells called, "Frères Chasseurs", which in English means hunter-brothers. Nelson had crossed into Vermont and some of these cells were based there. In this time period there were many US citizens who supported the rebellions in Upper and Lower Canada. Nelson hoped that US support would materialize as he planned to invade Lower Canada. Note that it was not only Nelson but the more moderate rebel leader Papineau who had fled to Vermont after the 1837 defeat.

And so we had the more moderate faction duelling with the faction under Nelson that felt that more direct violent action was still the better option. The moderate Papineau felt that they should not act precipitously without an assurance from the US government that it would support and approve of the action. That was never forthcoming.

Meanwhile, thousands flocked to these secret organizations called the Frères Chasseurs. And in Upper Canada there were similar groups called Hunters' Lodges and these cells were dominated by Americans who wished to see the end of the British fact in North America.

In Lower Canada, the opinions of Nelson and his ilk held sway and Nelson was elected the commander of the army that he tried to assemble in Vermont. Nelson believed that once the 1838 insurrection began that sympathetic Americans would flock to his aid. And there were reformers in the northern parts of the US who indeed were sympathetic to the cause of the Frères Chasseurs.

And so on Feb. 28 of 1838, Nelson's small army of 400 which had been armed with rifles from the Elizabethtown armoury in Vermont, crossed the border into Lower Canada. They quickly handed out pamphlets indicating a Declaration of Independence. It was worded remarkably like the US declaration. Also included was a constitution again just like the US constitution.

The invasion? It was a total failure. The army was quickly attacked and pushed back into the US. Nelson and his army were arrested in the US and charged with breaches of the US Neutrality Laws. There may have been a lot of support in the US for rebellions in the Canadas but the US government did not share those views. The US and the UK hoped to continue with a mutually beneficial trade relationship.

Now Nelson et al were quickly found not guilty and released. The people on the jury were sympathizers.

There is some debate as to the founding of the Frères Chasseurs. It was commonly accepted that the cells were not created until after the 1838 invasion but recent research seems to indicate that the secret society was established after the 1837 rebellion but before Nelson's 1838 invasion.

In any case, Nelson tried to remount a force to again attack Lower Canada. But the secret cells were difficult to co-ordinate and they were well spread out in Lower Canada and Vermont. They didn't always listen to Nelson and began to engage in individual raids at the cell level. This despite the fact that Nelson had planned his second invasion for Nov. 3, 1838. Individual cells chose not to wait for the signal to attack. And so the effort was disjointed. There was violence along the border for nearly two weeks however.

Nelson's new plan was quite detailed on paper. All of the cells knew what they were supposed to do. And Nelson was in contact with William Lyon Mackenzie who was the leader of the failed rebellion in Upper Canada. If the attacks had begun all at once as planned, there could have been more problems for the British.

Authorities in Lower Canada were quick to intercept the men at the different towns in which a Frères -Chasseurs cell had assembled. Nelson crossed the border and found a large group of 3000 men who were not well armed at all. He had arranged for an American vessel to bring arms and ammunition but it never arrived. Canadian loyalists had intercepted it.

Another group of 400 moved to a secret hidden cache of weapons in Rouse' Point, New York only to find that US authorities had arrived first to scoop the weapons. The 400 from that cell decided to attack anyway and were trounced by Canadian militia.

There were other Nelson led attempts to disrupt but they failed and Nelson fled. He wound up in California and then started to practice medicine again in New York state. The British actually pardoned him but he refused to return to Canada.

The US government didn't want any part of this as I mentioned and by 1842 Britain and the US had signed the Webster-Ashburton Treaty that resolved a number of the border disputes that had been plaguing the relationship. And the Frères-Chasseurs and the Hunters' Lodges faded into obscurity.


EDIT: I just wanted to add that the activity of the American dominated Hunters' Lodges found in NY, Ohio, Wisconsin and even in Kentucky was far greater than that of the Frères Chasseurs in Lower Canada, Vermont and NY state. These lodges crossed the border several times with 1838 being a very active year for incursions.

Cheers,

George


George
Centre Hastings ON Canada
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This day in World History! Continued
3/2/2022 11:22:19 AM
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1872 Yellowstone becomes the 1st US National Park! What is Canada's1st & best National Park?? Or your nations best National Park!?? COMMENTS? Anyone?


That's a hard one. Parks Canada traces its roots to the formation of the Dominion Parks Branch in 1911. It is my understanding that the Dominion Parks Branch was the world's first national parks service.

Banff National Park was the first national park with lands reserved for it on Sulphur Mountain in Alberta, by our first Prime Minister, Sir John A. Macdonald, in 1885. The first federal land reserved in the US for a federal park was the Arkansas Hot Springs. That was in 1882.

For some reason Canada had the foresight and the unlimited space to set aside tracts of land for public use. Well, one of the reasons was an economic one. The Canadian Pacific Railway opened the west and the CPR also felt that these federal reserves would be attractive to rail customers.

The result of this planning is that Parks Canada has determined to preserve our geographic heritage which is not only vast but widely varied. So 39 different geographic areas were identified and to date there are 48 National Parks and federal reserves. It is the goal to preserve land in every one of the regions.

Which is best? Beats me. I haven't been to them all but the ones that I have attended have all been wonderful and different. Banff is beautiful but virtually attached on its northern boundary is Jasper which is also outstanding. I have been to Forillon National Park on the Gaspé peninsula and to Fundy National Park on the Bay of Fundy and Cape Breton Highlands (the famous Cabot Trail passes through this park) All were spectacular.

Fathom Five National Marine Park is situated off the Bruce Peninsula in Ontario. It is an underwater park for scuba divers and its mandate is to preserve this fresh water ecosystem while preserving shipwrecks and lighthouses in the park.

Some of our national parks are so remote that it is difficult to gain access without flying in.

I should add that all of the provinces also maintain provincial parks which may also be spectacular.

While most of us live in or close to large urban centres, I think that the vastness and the beauty of our natural, physical environment also defines us. It's the big land and we all know that it is there. The National Parks system helps us to experience what we know.


Michigan Dave
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This day in World History! Continued
3/2/2022 8:18:26 PM
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1872 Yellowstone becomes the 1st US National Park! What is Canada's1st & best National Park?? Or your nations best National Park!?? COMMENTS? Anyone?


That's a hard one. Parks Canada traces its roots to the formation of the Dominion Parks Branch in 1911. It is my understanding that the Dominion Parks Branch was the world's first national parks service.

Banff National Park was the first national park with lands reserved for it on Sulphur Mountain in Alberta, by our first Prime Minister, Sir John A. Macdonald, in 1885. The first federal land reserved in the US for a federal park was the Arkansas Hot Springs. That was in 1882.

For some reason Canada had the foresight and the unlimited space to set aside tracts of land for public use. Well, one of the reasons was an economic one. The Canadian Pacific Railway opened the west and the CPR also felt that these federal reserves would be attractive to rail customers.

The result of this planning is that Parks Canada has determined to preserve our geographic heritage which is not only vast but widely varied. So 39 different geographic areas were identified and to date there are 48 National Parks and federal reserves. It is the goal to preserve land in every one of the regions.

Which is best? Beats me. I haven't been to them all but the ones that I have attended have all been wonderful and different. Banff is beautiful but virtually attached on its northern boundary is Jasper which is also outstanding. I have been to Forillon National Park on the Gaspé peninsula and to Fundy National Park on the Bay of Fundy and Cape Breton Highlands (the famous Cabot Trail passes through this park) All were spectacular.

Fathom Five National Marine Park is situated off the Bruce Peninsula in Ontario. It is an underwater park for scuba divers and its mandate is to preserve this fresh water ecosystem while preserving shipwrecks and lighthouses in the park.

Some of our national parks are so remote that it is difficult to gain access without flying in.

I should add that all of the provinces also maintain provincial parks which may also be spectacular.

While most of us live in or close to large urban centres, I think that the vastness and the beauty of our natural, physical environment also defines us. It's the big land and we all know that it is there. The National Parks system helps us to experience what we know.




Hi George,

That's quite a slew of National Parks, some of them are quite far out in the frozen north, & isolated!? It would seem they, because of their distant up north locations, well, that attendance would be really low?? Is there a chart showing attendence or a website or article about each park?? How would a Canadian, in say, from Toronto, ever get to them? It looks like some are north of Alaska even??

Thanks for posting the fascinating map on them, but it just raises questions??
Take off to the great white north! I guess!?

Cheers,
MD
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Brian Grafton
Victoria BC Canada
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This day in World History! Continued
3/2/2022 9:49:18 PM
George, great post.

At one time, there was an automatic fee charged for entering a National Park. There may still be. In mid-1966, my wife and I drove from Ontario to BC. There was a fee to drive through Banff National Park. We weren’t stopping; we were hell-bent for a job in Nelson, BC, but we had to pay a $5.00 park fee. No big deal, perhaps, but when you’ve been living on $240/month, $5 is a hefty fee for a drive-through.

I confess I often get confused between National and Provincial Parks. BC is laden with Provincial Parks, supporting over 1,000 covering almost 14,100,000 hectares of land (54, 440 square miles). Most, I believe, are really “protective zones”. Some are huge and remote (check Tatshenshini-Alesk Wilderness Park [Read More]) while others are smaller and much more accessible. Most have unique features which provided their designation as Provincial Parks.

Some of Canada’s National Parks have become destination locations. Banff is now a four-season park. Pacific Rim Park on Vancouver Island’s west coast is hugely popular, both with relative locals and with many Europeans searching for fast-disappearing old-growth forest and primitive coastal settings.

One park that doesn’t show up on you map, but which I thought was now both a National Park and a UN Protected area, is “The Great Bear Rainforest”. Maybe it isn’t officially a park, or maybe it’s provincially controlled. But it has the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, and is a vast wilderness area home to the Kermode Bear, also called the “ghost” bear, a cream-coloured variety of the brown bear. [Read More].

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Brian G


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George
Centre Hastings ON Canada
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This day in World History! Continued
3/3/2022 7:52:51 AM
Hi Brian, I got a bad link when I tried to use your link on the last post. Maybe you could look at it. I would like to see it.

EDIT: Forget my request Brian. Wiki had trouble with the spelling of the park but gave a, "Did you mean....?" and I clicked on that and found your link.

MD mentioned that my post left him with questions but did not specify. I assumed that he was wondering why we had national parks that were inaccessible, by road I presume.

And I think that the mandate of Parks Canada is not so much to provide touristy destinations for cars but to protect unique geography and ecosystems. So a national park like Nahanni only sees a little over 1000 visitors per year. I always wanted to paddle the Nahanni but have not done so and given that I am in my seventies, it is quite likely that I will not. The cost to get there by air and then get some kit is prohibitive for me. You have to take a float plane from Fort Simpson, NWT or make a lengthy trek on foot. If only I was 25 again.

But I like the idea that we have reserved some land in Canada (about 3% of the land mass) and left it pristine and untouched. As it is some of our national and provincial parks suffer from overuse.

Lots to see in this country.

George
George
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This day in World History! Continued
3/3/2022 10:25:55 AM
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That's quite a slew of National Parks, some of them are quite far out in the frozen north, & isolated!? It would seem they, because of their distant up north locations, well, that attendance would be really low?? Is there a chart showing attendence or a website or article about each park?? How would a Canadian, in say, from Toronto, ever get to them? It looks like some are north of Alaska even??

Thanks for posting the fascinating map on them, but it just raises questions??
Take off to the great white north! I guess!?


MD, quite a bit of Canadian territory is farther north than Alaska but as mentioned it is difficult to get to the parks in those remote territories. I had difficulty in finding a comprehensive and up to date list of attendance at every one of the national parks.

I did find this site that indicates the 10 most popular national parks as measured by "persons visits". Four of them are in beautiful and rugged British Columbia.

It also includes the five parks which saw the lowest number of visitors in 2018-2019.

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George
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Hi George,

Thanks for the reply the web page was fascinating with it's figures. I helped with the attendance figures for Tuktut Nogaite National Park in the Northwest Territories!? You might say I am as responsible as anyone for their attendance figures!? ☺

Love National Parks!
I have a lifetime pass, to USNP's.
Cheers,
MD
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George, I did correct (I hope!) the link. Part of the problem, I fear, is that many Provincial and National Parks have been given Indigenous names, where spelling trips many of us up. I was surprised to find that when I went looking for the park, I couldn’t find it under the spelling that was known to me. This is an issue that is of increasing concern. My birth town (Powell River, BC) is currently contemplating a name change; seems Mr Powell was a bit of a bastard to First Nations people and culture. No indication the name will be changed to a First Nations one.

My good buddy Steve and I were discussing this today. BC is a hotbed of name changes. Off the northwest BC coast is an archipelago variously known as the Queen Charlotte Islands or as Haida Gwaii. I don’t know which is the official name, and don’t know where one finds such information. Personally, I’m comfortable with either name, but to me Haida Gwaii reflects a more honest name given the history and current peoples of those islands.

As to National Parks, I didn’t realize that the Pacific Rim Park was that high in popularity. And because I’m of an age where someone in their 70s is still young, the southernmost part of the park – The West Coast Trail – might offer you a challenge worth thinking about.

The West Coast Trail is, evidently, on the world’s bucket list. And it is challenging without being deadly. I friend of mine, in his late 70s, “did” the trail. This is a primitive beach hike, with no assistance. One carries one’s shelter and supplies; one buries or otherwise disposes of his own waste, and carries back out other waste. And there is a waiting list of at least a year for a chance to take the challenge.

There are half-hikes and full-hikes. My friend went for a full hike; IIRC his was an eight day trek, a day or so over the norm, but there are folks who do competitive assaults who finish in five days.

Most of us only know the terrain of the West Coast Trail at second hand. It’s anything but an easy stroll. My friend is now thinking of attacking the WCT again. I think he’s nuts!

Cheers,
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Thanks Brian. The West Coast Trail sounds exciting. I have never spent much time in BC. Many years ago, I escorted my daughter to Fort Nelson where she was going to be employed. She was going to be staying alone in what the locals told me was a rough area of town. The short story is that she chose not to stay and as a Dad, I was happy with the decision. And that was my flirtation with the west coast.

But everything I see about the BC wilderness is enticing. Its's certainly a beautiful province.

I did notice that two of the National Parks in BC have an "R" designation beside the name. It stands for "reserve" but I don't know what that means in terms of its designation for use by the public.

Cheers,

George
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1776 the Americans take the Heights over Boston! Why did the British have trouble holding the Boston Area? Anyone?

1804 big criminal up rising in Austrailia, the Battle of Vinegar Hill! What was this about? Any Commonwealthers know? What say you?

Many Presidents inaugarated on these dates? Why these 2 dates? Comments??

1936 Hindenburg disaster! What caused it? Anyone?

& on 3-5, in 1770 the Boston Massacre occurs! What was its influence in the Revolution? What say you??

1836 Samuel Colt starts producing Colt pistol weapons! How effective were they? What was the best model? Comment??

1862 the Union takes another coastal town in NE Florida! Why were they able to control the Confederates coasts anyone??

1943 the RAF bombs Essen, Germany! How effective was this mission? Anyone?

1946 Winston Churchill's, Iron curtain speech! How right on was WSC? Anyone have a web on the speech?? Comments as well??

2019 the Canadian government is involved in a scandal involving bribes from an engineering firm Justin Trudeau is possibly involved? What's this all about? Anyone?

See any discussion events??

Remember the brave Ukrainians!
Peace,
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2019 the Canadian government is involved in a scandal involving bribes from an engineering firm Justin Trudeau is possibly involved? What's this all about? Anyone?


No, no, no. Trudeau did not bribe anyone.

There is an international corporation based in Canada and called S.N.C. Lavalin. It bids for contracts all over the world and is not above giving cash to prospective clients in order to secure a contract and was charged in Canada with bribery. Apparently, S.N.C. Lavalin, over a period of years had bribed officials in Libya in order to secure engineering contracts.

S.N.C. Lavalin is a huge company and it employs a lot of people here in Canada and across the world and a criminal conviction would have meant that the company could no longer bid for foreign contracts.

And it seems that Trudeau's involvement was that he attempted to influence the Department of Justice and the Attorney-General to find some other way to call S.N.C. Lavalin to task rather than laying a criminal charge.

And there is a legal way to do that, with a Deferred Prosecution Agreement. A DPA allows a company to avoid criminal prosecution. The rationale is that a criminal conviction for a large company could affect employees and pensioners if the company went out of business. A DPA does involve penalties and a repeat of bad behaviour could still result in criminal prosecution. But the company could still bid on contracts.

The Attorney-General Jodie Wilson-Raybould, was also a member of Trudeau's cabinet as the Minister of Justice. And it appears that Trudeau tried to influence Ms Wilson-Raybould to opt for a DPA rather than prosecution. The relationship between Trudeau and this cabinet minister was frayed and Trudeau moved her out of the prestigious Justice portfolio. Later he kicked her out of the caucus and refused to allow her to run as a Liberal in the next election.

And Trudeau argued that he was only concerned about Canadian jobs and the preservation of those jobs. He claims that he never directed her as to what she should do.

The Ethics Commissioner begged to differ and concluded that Trudeau had engaged in unethical conduct.

And one division of SNC Lavalin pleaded guilty to fraud over $5000 and had to pay millions in fines and the division was put on probation.

So yes, Trudeau made it clear that he wanted the A-G to go the DPA route rather than the criminal prosecution route but he was not involved in the bribery.


Cheers,

George




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1943 the RAF bombs Essen, Germany! How effective was this mission?

I assume you are making reference to the RAF BC raid on Essen on 5/6 March 1943, which marks the beginning of what was called by Bomber Harris “The Battle of the Ruhr”. More accurately, at least IMHO, this was the beginning of a largely 4-engined Main Assault by BC. It also reflected the growing power of Bomber Command, and the increasingly successful tactics it employed.

On 5/6 June 1943, 442 BC a/c attacked Essen. Of the 442 a/c, 139 (131 Wellingtons; 8 Mosquitoes) were twin-engined, with the Mossies being Oboe-equipped target markers rather than part of the main attack force. 14 a/c (3.2%) were lost. The attack would last some 40 minutes, which means that certain of the bases of the Kammhuber Line would have been engulfed. PFF backed-up Oboe marking with blind marking, so the target was well defined. The civilian death toll equalled or exceeded that of the 1000-bomber Millennium raid on Cologne in 1942.

This attack was within the pattern Bomber Command would use until at least late August 1943, when revamped Luftwaffe night-fighter defence began to appear. Even then, changes to basic Main Force techniques would change little. More and more a/c facing fewer and fewer German defenders simply meant that the number of a/c per raid could increase.

Harris spoke openly of his desire for a 4,000-strong bomber force. At best, he had IIRC some 1500, of which 2/3 on average were available on a given night.

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Brian G

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1530 England's King Henry VIII, request for divorce is denied by the Pope! How does this event effect Britain to this day?? Can any one fill us in??

1774 King George III, closes the port of Boston over a tea party! Seems a little harsh? What say you?. Who was to blame??

1778 Captain James Cook is along the Oregon Coast, how much of the BC coast will he explore? & does it effect the future Canadian west coast?? What say you??

1843 Governor Kavanagh of Maine, 1st Catholic Governor! Does Maine have a problem with it's border with what will be future Canada? What is the result?? Anyone??

The Compromise of1850 is endorsed! What is it's significance to the future Civil War?? Comments?

1864 areas around Kinston NC. Is about to fall to the Union! Is this bad for the Confederates? Is the end near? Comments?? Anyone?

1902 Boars defeat the British in South Africa! How did they give the most powerful nation on earth such a hard time?? What say you??

1876 AG Bell patents the telephone! Is this disputed? Comments?

1912 Roald Amundsen announces his discovery of the South Pole! How will this turn tragic for England?? What say you?? BTW I believe Kia's relative from that era, knew Amundsen pesonally!? Kai??

1836 Hitler sends troops into the Rhineland! Is something similar happening today? History repeats itself?? Comments?

1939, what did Auld Lang Syne have to do with Canada?? Really!? Anyone??

1942 15 Spitfire fighters sneak into Malta! How will this help save the embattled island!? Comments on these heroic & other great defenders of Malta!? Any good websites or videos on the battle for Malta, & its significance!?? What say you?

1984 the US attacks Nicaragua! What ever for?? Anyone??

Again hopefully, peace in the Ukraine!?
Regards,
MD

BTW thanks George for clearing up the Trudeau situation!
& Bri, as always great post on the RAF's bombings of Germany!

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1778 Captain James Cook is along the Oregon Coast, how much of the BC coast will he explore? & does it effect the future Canadian west coast?? What say you??


This was part of his third voyage but the Oregon coast was only part of that. Cook had sailed from Hawaii to what would become Oregon and then he sailed north and in bad weather he sought shelter in Nootka on Vancouver Island. From there he continued up the coast to Alaska.

He was looking for a clue that would lead him to the Northwest passage and he was sailing in the Bering Strait off the Russian coast but the winter weather was closing in so he headed back to Hawaii where he perished.

I would say that Cook's voyage helped to establish that the British were a player in the quest for dominance of trade on the west coast of North America. But so were the Russians and the Spanish. In fact, Spain and the UK would quarrel over rights to the land at Nootka, where Cook had sought refuge in the harbour there.

Eventually Britain would firmly establish its control of British Columbia and Vancouver Island and the lands to the south of the Mackenzie River which included what is now Washington and Oregon. In that sense then, Cook's voyage was part of the process of colonization.

Cheers,

George
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1843 Governor Kavanagh of Maine, 1st Catholic Governor! Does Maine have a problem with it's border with what will be future Canada? What is the result?? Anyone??


Maine didn't separate from Massachusetts until 1820 and there were disputes over the position of the international border between Maine and BNA. Maine and the US felt that the border extended nearly to the St. Lawrence River.

Britain and Canada were concerned that a line that far north would make it impossible to link Lower Canada with the colonies on the east coast. Problems arose because Maine began to survey and give land grants to people to build in the disputed territory and specifically in land that Britain had claimed.

We recall that Britain had annexed this territory during the War of 1812 when it occupied the north part of Maine. Of course, the treaty returned that land to the US but there was still the problem of the location of the border and both parties struggled to determine the source of the St. Croix River which was mentioned in the 1794 Jay's Treaty. A 1798 commission settled the southern boundary of Maine but not the northern boundary and said nothing about the islands off Maine and New Brunswick.

Eventually, the King of the Netherlands ruled on the dispute in the 1830's but Maine didn't like what he said and US representatives began to survey in lands that would be New Brunswick. Tensions mounted. Lumberjacks on both sides began to log in the same area of the Aroostook River resulting in the Aroostook War which wasn't really a war at all but it was an international incident that required intervention on the part of the US government and the British. Both Maine and New Brunswick called out the militia. This happened in 1839.

The US government sent Winfield Scott to clean things up. It is interesting that President Van Buren had also dispatched Scott to stop Americans who were members of Hunters' Lodges or Fréres Chasseurs from invading the Canadas in the aftermath of the Upper and Lower Canada rebellions of 1837.

Neither nation wanted a war. They wanted profitable trade but the US in particular had to deal with citizens in Maine who were determined to assume control of disputed territory and the British had to stop people in New Brunswick from doing the same.

And so another negotiation resulted in the Webster-Ashburton Treaty of 1842 and that settled the boundary. It was a bit of a compromise and while the US received most of the land, the border was moved south to ensure a land link between the Canadas and the east coast.



Both Maine and Massachusetts were still upset but a US federal representative convinced them that they were getting the better of the deal.

The BNA colonies felt that Britain had caved in order to maintain good trade relations with the US. This seemed to be a pattern and would repeat shortly in Oregon and 60 years later in Alaska.

Of note, while the W-A treaty did establish the border, we still have disputes over the islands in the waters near Maine and New Brunswick, where the Gulf of Maine and the Bay of Fundy mix. Canada claims an island called Machias Seal Island and has manned a lighthouse on this rock since 1832. The federal government of Canada asserts sovereignty, not the province of New Brunswick and the island is also a bird sanctuary and thus protected from settlement.

The waters around the island are designated a "grey zone" and fishermen (lobster, I think) from both sides fish in the area. Relations between the two groups are fraught with tension. So we still have two nations disputing ownership of this rock and it all has to do with which country owns and manages the resources surrounding the island including fish, lobster and whatever is under the ocean floor.

This is the disputed land mass:



The following is a short CBC piece on the Maine and New Brunswick border conflict.

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George
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Yesterday's topics, any other topics??

1530 England's King Henry VIII, request for divorce is denied by the Pope! How does this event effect Britain to this day?? Can any one fill us in??

1774 King George III, closes the port of Boston over a tea party! Seems a little harsh? What say you?. Who was to blame??

1778 Captain James Cook is along the Oregon Coast, how much of the BC coast will he explore? & does it effect the future Canadian west coast?? Thanks George, for your response above!

1843 Governor Kavanagh of Maine, 1st Catholic Governor! Does Maine have a problem with it's border with what will be future Canada? Again thanks George for the informative history on the Maine Canadian border despite history!

The Compromise of1850 is endorsed! What is it's significance to the future Civil War?? Comments?

1864 areas around Kinston NC. Is about to fall to the Union! Is this bad for the Confederates? Is the end near? Comments?? Anyone?

1902 Boars defeat the British in South Africa! How did they give the most powerful nation on earth such a hard time?? What say you??

1876 AG Bell patents the telephone! Is this disputed? Comments?

1912 Roald Amundsen announces his discovery of the South Pole! How will this turn tragic for England?? What say you?? BTW I believe Kia's relative from that era, knew Amundsen pesonally!? Kai??

1836 Hitler sends troops into the Rhineland! Is something similar happening today? History repeats itself?? Comments?

1939, what did Auld Lang Syne have to do with Canada?? Really!? Anyone??

1942 15 Spitfire fighters sneak into Malta! How will this help save the embattled island!? Comments on these heroic & other great defenders of Malta!? Any good websites or videos on the battle for Malta, & its significance!?? What say you?

1984 the US attacks Nicaragua! What ever for?? Anyone??

Again hopefully, peace in the Ukraine!?
DT is right, Ukraine's Invasion is a tragedy of world wide consequences!!!
Sincerely,
MD

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3/8/2022 8:45:31 AM
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1774 King George III, closes the port of Boston over a tea party! Seems a little harsh? What say you?. Who was to blame??


Probably not harsh enough if you had a financial interest in the one million dollars worth of tea that the rabble dumped into the harbour.

Britain had been struggling with an obstreperous Massachusetts populace which had been clamouring for less taxation and greater representation in government. They resented any changes to the level of independence that they already had.

Britain had accrued a great deal of debt in the Seven Years War which included the French and Indian War. Britain intended that the colonists should help to pay off that war debt as it was British soldiers and colonial militia that had eliminated the enemy, the French, who had been a thorn in the side of the colonists for years. British blood and money was spent on that endeavour.

So I think that I understand why the British closed the port. However, I do think that the passage of a suite of laws in the aftermath that the insurrectionists called the Intolerable Acts was not wise. That is hindsight of course. Negotiations may have placated the rebels but I doubt it. Too many of the leaders were businessmen who wished to bypass and thwart the British mercantile system and were willing to engage in smuggling to do so.

The British also passed the Québec Act which while outside of the four Intolerable Acts was also considered egregious by the rebels. After all, the act limited the ability of the colonists to move west to occupy lands intended for the First Nations. And it was an act that seemed to pander to the population of the Québec colony who happened to be mostly Roman Catholics, reviled in some of the Protestant British colonies.

Cheers,

George
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There was a small tea burning that took place in December 1774 not far from where I now live. It took place in Greenwich,

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Hi Guys,

Great to have some new guys contribute to the site! Thanks Michael, the history of the burning of British Tea, was not well known as Boston's Tea party! & Gary, Also nice to see the crew of the USS Cumberland & their story of their sinking, noted! Thanks guys!!!

In recent historical block buster finds, Sir Ernest Shackleton's ship Endurance was finally found! Some great articles on the subject are out there!? With my simple tablet I can't access them, & post to this site?? Could someone help me out by posting some great articles on this incredible find!? With it being sunk deep in the Weddell Sea, near the Antarctic Coast, I thought it would never be found!?? It's fascinating story & it would be good for a discussion here!?? Help with some good articles or sites like the BBC's take on it would be appreciated!?

Thanks,
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3/9/2022 1:05:48 PM
Battle of Hampton Roads in 1862.

Steam-powered, iron-clad warships in the American Civil War, the Union's USS Monitor and the Confederate's CSS Virginia, fire on each other for four hours off Hampton Roads, Virginia. The engagement of iron-fortified battleships ends in a draw.

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3/9/2022 2:17:08 PM
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Hi Trevor, & MHO,

Thanks for the links! The Endurance certainly is in pristine condition! From what they say waters that frigid keep the wreck in as good of condition as the day it sank! Ironically it was found 100 years to the day that Shackleton was buried! It was found by Endurance 22 Expedition! Sir Ernest Shackleton is immortalized by his incredible rescue of his entire ship's company, still regarded as one of the greatest leaders with regards to expedition safety in polar exploration history!?

Any other good sites or videos on Sir Ernest, on this, and other polar expeditions??
Sir Robert Falcon Scott, & Sir Jonathan Franklin, both fatal tragedys! Certainly they could have learned from him in regards for judgement, discretion, & leadership!?

What say you? Comments & posts on the subject welcome!?

Thanks, & Regards,
MD

BTW any new history for 3-10??

Also curious if Parks Canada made any progress with their work on Sir Franklin's Wrecks last summer, & their plans for the future? Anyone??

& Dick, any good sites on the Naval Ironclad Battle of Hampton Roads? It changed Naval battles forever!? Comments anyone??
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3/10/2022 9:06:18 PM
On this day in 1933 – less than 40 days after Hitler assumed the Chancellorship of Germany on 30 Jan 1933 – the Nazis open their first KZ (concentration camp) in Dachau. It is not a “death camp” but a prison for those considered dangerous to Nazi values. At this point, I believe most prisoners were political foes rather than racial/cultural foes.

Camps such as Dachau would proliferate, and many of them would be both vile, harsh, primitive and punishing. And although folks died at these camps, it was not until the implementation of the Wannsee Protocol that camps designed specifically for killing Untermenschen were created. I point this out only because many still equate Dachau with Birkenau. Both were horrid; only one was inhuman and a reason to bring charges of war-criminal level behaviour.

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When Sir Ernest Shackleton reached the Whaling Station on South Georgia, he was un recognized by the leader of the station, he knocked on the door, & was asked who he was? His reply, " I am Shackleton "! What a adventure he had to tell!?? Comments anyone??


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3/11/2022 8:04:09 PM
On this day in 1985, Mikhail Gorbachev became general secretary of the Communist Party in the USSR, following the death of Konstantin Chernenko.

Mr Gorbachev’s short tenure as general secretary is, of course, marked by the collapse of the Soviet Union. More important, and more worthy of a legacy he may still be proud of, he furthered and stressed the concept of perestroika, first introduced by Leonid Breshnev in 1979. Basically a reference to production and labour efficiency, it grew to suggest an awareness that economic factors were driven by market issues rather than ideology. Gorbachev’s “revolutionary” addition to Breshnev’s perestroika was the concept of “glasnost”, or openness. This would reshape the power of the Politburo and redefine many assumed relationships at all levels of Soviet Union structure. It must have scared the hell out of the Apparatchik, which probably led to the attempted coup which Yeltsin faced down.

I think there are a number of lovely little MA theses resting in this period of Russian history – in history, psychology, science, political science or a host of other fields.

Cheers,
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3/11/2022 8:30:54 PM
I want to write my own “head” for this story. I am not a MacArthur fan, so I guess my head would read Dugout Doug Deserts.

On this day, Gen. MacArthur, family and entourage scampered from Corregidor to Mindanao, and from there to Australia, where he would ultimately be given yet another grandiose title to define his role in a theatre of operations.

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Brian G
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